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To Bain or Not to Bain?


By Kelly Thomas - Posted on 15 May 2012

Just curious on everyone's take on whether:

A) Bain Capital is fair game against Romney

B) The Anti-Bain Ads are wise/will be effective

From ABC News:

The Obama campaign has launched a new round of negative TV attack ads against Mitt Romney, casting him as a heartless “job destroyer” during his days at Bain Capital.

A two-minute spot, set to begin airing today in five battleground states, tells the story of a Kansas City steel company — GST Steel — which was purchased by Bain in 1993 and went bankrupt in 2001. More than 750 workers lost their jobs when the mill where they worked was closed.

“They made as much money off of it as they could. And they closed it down,” says Joe Soptic, a steelworker for 30 years.

Jack Cobb, who also worked in the industry for three decades, says, “It was like a vampire. They came in and sucked the life out of us.”

Team Obama accuses Romney of loading the company with debt and reaping “quick profits for himself and his investors” at the expense of middle class workers.

“Romney’s business strategy wasn’t about strengthening companies and creating jobs for long-term economic growth. It wasn’t about investors and workers playing by the same set of rules, and it certainly wasn’t about creating an economy built to last by rewarding hard work and responsibility and strengthening the security of middle-class families,” the campaign said in a statement.

Romney left Bain in 1999 to manage the Salt Lake City Olympic Games, and his campaign says he bears no responsibility for layoffs that occurred after his tenure.

“The Obama campaign is going to do everything they can to distract voters from the fact that their policies are not working,” said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul. “President Obama can’t come close to matching the many years of experience that Mitt Romney has as a private businessman so he has chosen to attack it.”

Team Romney has taken credit for jobs created after he left Bain, however.  They claimed during the primary fight that Bain was responsible for creating a net 100,000 jobs, citing current employment numbers at three big companies Bain invested in:  Staples, Sports Authority, Domino’s Pizza.

I do feel the Bain record is fair game since Romney is running more on his business credentials than on his record as Governor (has he even mentioned his experience as Governor of Massachusetts?) And I think it's horrific what Bain-and investment companies like it-do to make a profit often through destroying unions, cutting worker benefits and destroying jobs. If Bain is a sucess story for capitalism, I'm not sure I want to be a cheerleader for capitalism. If Romney was advertising Bain honestly as a company which is designed to make profits for shareholders (which it is) and not as a job creator (I think records would show more jobs destroyed than created but tough to "prove") perhaps he could be left alone. But if he claims Bain created tons of jobs (which he does) he needs to back that up (why won't he release business records?) and answer to the lives he turned upside down. Could he have made a little less profit but saved jobs? I actually think the Obama ad is terrific in that it highlights actual working class folks we can all identify with and stirs alot of emotion. But maybe I have been listening to too many right-wing responses to the Anti-Bain ads so I am not sure this populist message will necessarily be a winner for a few reasons:

1) Romney knew it was coming and was prepared

Mitt Romney fires back at the Obama campaign’s Bain fusillade.

2) Republicans could try to turn it into "Obama is against capitalism" and it could backfire.

3) It is a bit hard for some to understand the whole concept of investment companies and some may be confused or give Romney the benefit of the doubt.

4) It sure doesn't help that someone like Steve Ratner is calling the ad "unfair."

(continued from above ABC article)

...Still, even Steven Rattner, a former Obama administration adviser on the auto bailout, criticized the ad, saying in a TV interview today that he thinks it’s “unfair.”

“I do think to pick out an example of somebody who lost their job, unfortunately, this is part of capitalism, this is part of life,” said Rattner. “And I don’t think there’s anything Bain Capital did that they need to be embarrassed about.”

I would personally advise Team Obama to keep it an issue (amongst many others including his horrible jobs record in MA) but utitlize the words of Gingrich and Perry (who described it graphically as a vulture) so people see both sides going after him on it. Also, they should tie Bain to his "let Detroit go bankrupt" philosophy in which his plan would have killed so many jobs while President Obama saved jobs and helped the industry rebound. Another angle they could take is that the "success stories" Romney is trumpeting also involved alot of government help to save those companies. I thought Republicans were against that?

A more hard-hitting Anti-Bain ad from Priorities USA.

Romney knew it was coming and is prepared... that said

This is my favorite anti-Bain ad...

Blog from NY Times article:

On Wednesday, Mitt Romney brings his campaign to Florida for a speech and a fundraiser. He will no doubt brag that he alone has the experience to create jobs in America ... but somehow I imagine he won't be telling any stories about this aspect of his experience: the story of how Bain Capital loaded up medical company Dade Behring with debt, allowing it to extract $342 million in profit before firing 850 of the company's Florida-based employees and declaring bankruptcy. As the New York Times reported:

Bain settled on a common tactic in private equity: In April 1999, it pushed Dade to borrow hundreds of millions of dollars to buy half of Bain’s shares in the company — and half of those of its investment partners.

Bain pocketed the $242 million. Goldman received $121 million. Top Dade executives got $55 million, records show. The total payout to shareholders reached $420 million — nearly as much as the purchase price for Dade.


But then:

The strategy of sharply increasing Dade’s debt alarmed several executives. Mr. Garrett, the former chief executive of Dade who stood to gain from the transaction, said he had argued unsuccessfully against it.

“It was too aggressive,” Mr. Garrett said. “It was done right up to the limit of what the company could borrow.”

With the amount of money that Dade owed to creditors and vendors at nearly $2 billion, some executives worried that the company would have little maneuvering room if its financial situation suddenly deteriorated.

Soon enough, it did. Interest rates rose, increasing Dade’s debt payments. The value of the euro, then a new currency, slid, reducing Dade’s European revenue. And a new distribution center had unexpected delays.

Creditors, unsettled by deteriorating finances and high debts, began to pounce. More layoffs followed. And in August of 2002, Dade filed for bankruptcy protection.

Bain's initial investment was $30 million. It cashed out $342 million—more than 1,000 percent of what it originally paid, yet the company still went bankrupt and nearly 1,000 Florida workers lost their jobs.

This is the experience Mitt Romney wants to bring to the Oval Office. No thanks.

These questions are bigger than I have room to answer so I'll do my best.

To answer #2 first, yes I think they will be effective.  It's complete political posturing by the SuperPAC but strategists know it will work.  That's why they're employing the tactic.  Romney already suffers from the inability to connect with anyone under the income of $1 million per year - the ads will play on that weakness.

Now to question #1: is Bain "fair game?" In the political world everything is game.  That line was crossed a long time ago by politicians long-passed.  The ad is disingenuous, which is very typical of SuperPAC ads.  Didn't we as a group despise the SuperPAC ads against Obama? 

(Sometimes I sense a bit of confirmation bias around here....)

There are several industries for which large debt loads are typical, and heavy industry (including steel) is one of them.  Debt financing doesn't always lead to bankruptcy - if it did, you wouldn't have any utility companies providing your electricity.  GST Steel went bankrupt for two reasons: 1. Less expensive foreign steel imports, just like many other steel companies at the time, and  2. An underfunded pension plan to the tune of $44 million. 

All in all, I agree with Steve Rattner on this one.  It isn't fair, but that's the AD that isn't fair.  A different issue is whether or not Bain Capital is fair game and to that I say yes for the same reason you cited - that's the experience on which Romney is running. 

EDIT: My apologies for the references to the SuperPAC... I thought this ad was funded by a pac - I could have sworn there was a Bain-related SuperPAC ad.  The ad itself is blocked here at the office so I couldn't watch it but the ABC news source cited the Obama campaign directly. 

Source: Forbes

Medicare Fraud

In 1989, Bain Capital purchased controlling interest in Damon Corp., a medical testing company located in Needham, Massachusetts.

During the time that Bain held its ownership of the company, Mitt Romney personally sat on the Board of Directors. And during that same period, Damon Corp. was busy submitting fraudulent reimbursement claims to Medicare to the tune of millions of dollars charged for unnecessary blood tests.

...

You see, before Romney indicated that he was involved in conducting an investigation while he was on the board of directors, he said that he was completely unaware of any investigation.

Here’s another shocker. While the company eventually went bankrupt, with thousands losing their jobs, Bain Capital walked away with a $12 million profit—a little over $400,000 of that money ending up in Mitt’s pocket.

*****

He sought a law firm because he knew what federal criminal charges would do to the value of his company.

Of course, fair game... but what isn't?  Fairer game than the dog on top of the car stuff.

Effective? One hopes that DNC and PACs do pre-testing and focus group monitoring before spending tons of money on an ad buy.  Still... who knows?

I still find it hard to believe that Democrats and Obama have taken the right wing narration that he can't run on the economy.

>  Private sector job creation is UP since Bush

> Stock market is WAY up since Bush (saving retirement hopes for countless older workers)

>Highest gas prices under Obama LESS than highest gas prices under Bush

> New job creation in the private sector UP over Bush's last year -- consistantly for over 12 months

> Public sector employment is down thanks to GOP state cutbacks

> The goddammmm stimulus for the auto industry WORKED.

>Unemployment rate at end of Bush term = 7.3.  Under Obama, now, 8.3.  That's not enough to bring down a presidency unless the president agrees that is enough to bring him down... which apparently he does.

Obama has accepted the whole "he can't run on the economy" narrative. Would the Republicans accept that garbage? No way.

 

 

I am somewhat disappointed that the Obama team is down playing Obama's management of the economy!! ---They surely have bought into the GOP narrative that Obama is weak on the economy. Now Boehner is threatening to obstruct and create chaos this coming November in order to bring the President down!!--- I hope the Obama administration gets enough guts and tout Obama's prevention of allowing this economy to free fall!!---- Even Romney admitted that the economy was recovering!!   The Obama administration needs to continue to do the comparison with the crisis from last year and the monumental improvement to this year!!---- They need to continue to show graphs and pictures to reflect the improvement from last year. Some consumers are visual learners and they would grasp the concept of how the economy has improved with these different visual aids. As a result, the Obama administration have to be creative with various  teaching styles in order to educate and convince the public of his accomplishments on the economy; merely stating that he has made improvements may not be enough?? IDK?

"stating that he has made improvements may not be enough" True, it might not be enough, but good heavens -- NOT doing it is conceding, even accepting, the GOP criticism that he has not been diligent or effective in cleaning up THEIR mess.  

Somehow Biden is really pulling off the Bain attacks well. He is stressing that it's not about jealousy of rich people but basic fairness that the people in the Romney camp "don't understand." Very effective I must say. But poor Romney calls this a character attack...no, this is your record. A character attack is what Romney did ruthlessly to his opponents in the primary.
YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (AP) — Vice President Joe Biden, campaigning in Democratic territory with high unemployment, went after Republican Mitt Romney's business background Wednesday and cast him as a corporate raider more interested in profits than people. Biden said the former businessman favors policies that benefit the well-to-do over average people. He said President Barack Obama wants to give everyone a fair shake and make sure everyone plays by the same rules. "These guys don't get it," Biden said, his voice rising as he addressed supporters on a factory floor in Youngstown, where the unemployment rate is 10.4 percent, more than 2 points above the national average. "As long as the government helps the guys at the top, workers and small businesses and communities, they can fend for themselves," Biden said. At the same time, "the big guy is doing well," he said. The speech in Ohio, an economically battered state that will help decide the November presidential election, continued the effort by Obama's campaign to portray Romney as more in tune with rich people like himself. Obama's campaign and an independent group that supports the president have begun airing ads in several states, including Ohio, that highlight the failure of a Missouri-based steel company that was bought by Bain Capital, the private equity firm Romney helped get off the ground. GST Steel later went bankrupt in 2001, costing 750 people their jobs. Romney was no longer with Bain at the time of GST's collapse. "Nobody knows better than the people in the (Mahoning River) valley the consequences of that kind of philosophy. You have been through hell and back," Biden said. After Romney's company bought the Missouri steel company, its debt increased from USD 13 million to USD 533 million, Biden said. "When you get that kind of debt and things turn bad, you're dead, you're done," he said. Biden said the company wound up in bankruptcy court, leaving employees without health care or pensions. Thirty top executives came away with USD 9 million and Romney and his partners came out with USD 12 million, Biden said.

Go VP, Joe.   When he's not, he's not. But when he's hot, he's HOT!

The Obama camp had better keep hitting Romney hard about Bain.  According to a recent Gallop poll, most Americans see a BETTER economic future with Romney as president than Obama.

Team Romney campaign are pissed about these Bain Capital videos. If Romney want to call the people in the video liars, good luck with that as a campaign tactic.

He destroyed their jobs, bankrupted the pension fund, and profited from something that loss money for the little guy. I'm pleased that former blue collar workers have been given a voice. It makes Romney look like a greedy owner... and dumb.

 

 

The Bane of Romney's Existence

You folks are unduly worried about the campaign message 5 1/2 months out from the G.E. Here's my advice: DON'T!

Obama might not be great at governing (I have been critical of him at times, particularly his overwhelming desire to give in to GOP stupidity), but one thing Obama is GREAT at: it's campaigning.

No worries, mate! (Crocodile Dundee)

Accidental duplicate post, sorry.

If his performance on behalf of the Affordable Care Act in 2010 is your idea of great campaigning, please come join me in the whirlpool of worry.

I'm talking about campaigning for office, not for any particular piece of legislation.

Well, with friends like Cory Booker, President Obama needs no enemies. Geesh. Why can't the Democrats be unified on such a simple Anti-Bain message? And if there are some Democrats uncomfortable with it, don't they know to just keep their mouths shut and avoid scheduling yourself on Sunday morning talk shows. I'm glad Booker back-tracked but it's too late. I'm sure Romney is already creating ads with Booker's pro-Bain words. Great job on messaging, Democrats!

 

I cringed too when Booker (Who I Absolutely Adore lol) made the comment about Bain and the private equity firms. I know he is a strong supporter of the president but now the opponents will take Cory’s words and plaster it all over the media in their defense of Romney!!  Lol ---- I wish the Democrats could stay in unison and stop contradicting each other’s message! Ughhh!!   I know he back tracked but it’s out there for all to distort lol---- The GOP and RNC are gearing up to make Romney’s record off limits by putting forth some fantasy vision  ( fake imaginary pipedream) that is based on hot air. Just maybe if the Romney campaign put out positive ads about what Romney offers the future, then possibly they could shame the Obama team into not shoring up Romney’s true record on the economy and jobs creation. The RNC has already set the tone that the Obama team is attacking Romney’s Character because they can’t run on Obama’s record; therefore, the Obama team is supposedly trying to distract from Obama’s poor economic record lol----

If the Romney campaign could go real dirty on Obama’s record without   shoring up Romney’s dismal record, they would!!  However, they know that Romney has holes in his record as a job creator. Why would Romney’s team play up his business experience (Collaborator CEO at a private equity firm) as a qualifier for the Presidency? Now they are trying to back walk that step because it does not fit the mode of job creator!!! They refuse to identify how his role as Governor gave him the experience to run for the Presidency!!--- So I guess the public has to go on Romney’s words and not his record?? -----  Now the RNC has CONED the narrative that the Obama team is desperate for reelection and will do anything to attack Romney!! Lol---- as long as the Romney team can paint the Obama team as desperate, destructive and anti-America then maybe they could create some traction.

The problem with Romney is that when it is time for the debates and he is asked a series of spontaneous questions regarding the economy, foreign affairs, social issues, military issues, energy, immigration and other global and domestic issues, Romney has the tendency not to do well when cornered and questioned directly. The public will have the opportunity to see how Romney will demonstrate substance on the topics and not just hot air!!--- Right now he is selling the America public hot air. I am sure his team is making sure he is knowledgeable on the subjects by running him thru a series of mock questions. However, Romney’s answers will be weighed against President Obama’s true knowledge regarding the vast domestic and international matters. One way or another, Romney’s record will be tried; be it by the media or the Obama team. When he is questioned during the debates, he will be asked to explain his answers based on his previous record as Governor or businessman. He can’t run and hide!! His team thinks they can ward off the media by accusing the liberal media and the Obama team of attacking Romney!! They will cry wolf. They will cry loud and hard that the Obama team is desperate!!  We will see the Romney team fending off Romney’s record by framing the issue is about a personal attack against Romney!!

 

Romney’s challenge will be getting out of the robotic mode and demonstrating authenticity and empathy for the issues facing the American people.  What a ride this will be going into the General election!! lol

 Well here is our sweet Cory trying to clean up his error!! lol   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsdD3AvSgVQ

And the ever reliable (NOT!) Harold Ford happily made things worse on "Morning Joe" today saying that Booker should not have backed down and Ford of course defended companies like Bain. Ford is known to defend big banks,too, and agree with Republican ways that are great for the rich but kick the poor, so we should put in perspective, I suppose. There is a reason he is just a talking head and not an elected representative anymore. Again, I am not saying companies like Bain are evil and I'm sure they do some good, especially for their purpose which is to make money for investors. But all Democrats should be unified in attacking Romney for pretending that Bain produced more jobs than it destroyed and acting like the purpose of Bain was to save or create jobs when that is far from the truth. Let's stay focused, Democrats! I'm sure the GOP won't hesitate to use the words of Booker so Team Obama should already be using Gingrich and Perry in their ads. And watch polling carefully this week. If Obama slips or doesn't gain much ground, expect the headline to be "Bain ads backfiring." I sure hop that's not the case!!!

 

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/harold-ford-i-agree-with-corey-bookers-remarks

Romney's governor job experience is more suited to his evaluation as what his capabilities might be as a President. He is an expert on creating jobs? He was 47th when he was Gov of Mass. We can look forward to clarification of this in the presidential debates. But then again, perhaps Romney will not participate. Which would be the best political choice he'll ever make.

No surprise.

The RNC is capitalizing on comments from Newark Mayor Cory Booker by sending out a fundraising email and creating an “I Stand With Cory” petition, asking signers not to let “The Obama Campaign Silence Support for Job Creation.” Booker created a small firestorm Sunday when he said on “Meet the Press” that he’s “uncomfortable” with the Obama campaign’s ads going after Bain Capital for laying off workers – comments he tried to smooth over in a video Sunday evening. 

The petition reads:

Yesterday New Jersey Mayor Cory Booker, a surrogate spokesman for the Obama campaign called the president’s attacks on the free market “ridiculous”. That’s right Mr. President, we aren’t going to let you destroy free enterprise. Stand up for America. Stand up for job creators.

Usually, Democrats immediately back off anything controversial but I guess it's refreshing to see Team Obama keep pushing the topic. From TPM:

Damn the Bookers, Obama camp presses on with Bain attacks.

 

Hey, this is flattering. Politico stole my headline. Who says we are not major players here at RFO? Lol. But I do think the article is worth a read, looking at the same question I continue to ask. Is Bain fair game and smart politics or will it backfire? I think it's still an open question.

The Obama campaign is throwing everything they have at Mitt Romney on Bain Capital.  No surprise there.

And the GOP is throwing everything they can muster at Chicago in self-defense -- especially Cory Booker's "Meet the Press" statement and subsequent hostage tape -- sending out a bunch of press releases, snarky emails and even a petition urging the faithful to "Stand with Cory."  Also no surprise.

But is it smart -- for either side?

My general sense, from talking to Democratic strategists, is that the GOP counterattack might boomerang on Romney: any day where any Republican is sending out press releases with the word "Bain" in the subject line is a muddled, defensive day for Romney.

Chicago's goal is to make Bain a household word -- and that is best accomplished through repetition to form a groove in the collective consciousness of American voters. I haven't seen any public polling (If anyone has some, let me know) on what percentage of the American populace actually knows what Bain is.

But my feeling, based on the spending patterns of the Obama campaign, is that it's not as high as Chicago would like: They are slowly building those numbers with paid media, and hoping for the GOP and MSM will take it from there. They are building brand recognition.

Hey, this is flattering. Politico stole my headline.

RFO is what it is girl friend.

Obama: Fighting Romney on economy ‘is what this campaign is going to be about’

"This issue is not a distraction," Obama defiantly declared at a press conference wrapping up a NATO summit in his hometown of Chicago. "This is what this campaign is going to be about."

"If your main argument for how to grow the economy is 'I knew how to make a lot of money for investors,' then you're missing what this job is about," the president said, evidently relishing the opportunity to knock Romney.

"It doesn't mean you weren't good at private equity, but that's not what my job is as president. My job is to take into account everybody, not just some. My job is to make sure that the country is growing not just now, but ten years from now and 20 years from now," he said.

-snip-

"My view of private equity is that it is set up to maximize profits," he said. "And that's a healthy part of the free market. But that's not always going to be good for communities or business or workers."

"The reason this is relevant to the campaign is because my opponent, Governor Romney, his main calling card for why he thinks he should be president is his business experience," Obama said. "He's not going out there touting his experience in Massachusetts, he's saying 'I'm a business guy, I know how to fix it,' and this is his business."

"And when you're president, as opposed to the head of a private equity firm, then your job is not simply to maximize profits," he said. "Your job is to figure out how everybody in the country has a fair shot."

"Mister Romney is responsible for the proposals he's putting forward for how he says he's going to fix the economy," Obama said. "And if the main basis for him suggesting he can do a better job is his track record as the head of a private equity firm then both the upsides and the downsides are worth examining."

 

Well said, Mr. President. Team Romney seems to want it both ways. Run on what a great businessman he was but run away and say it's "negative campaigning" when asked simple questions about it. Don't back down, Team Obama-repetition is key.

Jim Cramer: Bain Capital "Fired a Lot of People and That's How They Got Prosperity For The Rich"

Love the honesty of Cramer. Tell it like it is. I am surprised this comment did not get as much attention as Cory Booker's.

Link from TPM. Using Gingrich, Perry, Huntsman and even Palin to make your point about Bain. That's what I'm talking about!

The pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action has created a new web video which uses attacks from Mitt Romney’s rivals during the Republican primary to attack Romney’s record at Bain Capital. “Somebody who’s very wealthy comes in, takes over your company, takes out all the cash, and leaves behind the unemployment,” Newt Gingrich says in one clip used in the video. “I think that’s not a model we want to advocate, and I don’t think any conservative wants to get caught defending that kind of model.” 

Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman makes an appearance, saying “Governor Romney enjoys firing people. I enjoy creating jobs.” Texas Gov. Rick Perry is also featured prominently in the video, where he says “There is something fundamentally wrong when getting rich off failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business.” 

Also included is a clip of Sarah Palin saying it was legitimate to ask Romney for proof of his claim to have created 100,000 jobs while at Bain.  

“Even Republicans know Mitt Romney has not explained how his experience profiting from companies driven to bankruptcy qualifies him to be President,” Bill Burton, Senior Strategist for Priorities USA Action said in a statement. “If Romney makes business experience the central reason for his campaign, voters have every right to question the many deals where Romney made millions while workers lost their jobs and promised benefits.”

The video comes after Mitt Romney’s campaign on Monday created a video featuring Democrats questioning Obama’s attacks on Bain Capital.

Loris and Ampad

Mitt Romney and Bain Capital drove a profitable company into bankruptcy. They made more than $100 million profit

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Link from The Hill. Former Republican Governor & Romney surrogate Sununu says the Bain issues are "fair game."

Let's face it-Romney decided long ago to run on his record as a "businessman" (rather than as a former Governor) so for him to think that Bain is "off limits" makes no sense. He should have been prepared for these attacks but he seems unsure of how to blunt the message. And President Obama is right to question exactly how this qualifies him to be our president when he has experience and success helping the 1% but not too many of the 99%.

Republicans vs. Romney's Record

 Ed Rendell, Cory Booker, and other "even handed, blame on both sides" Democratic jerks are "helping Obama" into the street.

Gotta give the GOP credit... their spokespersons hung together under the onslaught of the war against women campaign. They denied it even when the evidence for a GOP
war on women could fill a house. THAT... is campaign message discipline and team work.

Chris Matthews and Mike Scherer of TIME MAGAZINE on HARDBALL are properly nailing the Democrats for their crappy messaging, blaming (fairly) the White House for not taking cable chatter seriously in the first two years of the administration and Democratic leaders now for amateurish message discipline and coordination.

DEMOCRATIC MESSAGING...  When winning seems just a little too elitist.

 

 

 

 

 It never fails!! The Democrats sabotage each other all the time!! Ughhhh!!--- Unbelievable!! Even former Governor Rendell ( I really like Rendell!) put his two cents in it!! Lol ---this is the imperfection of the Democratic Party!!--- However, Santorum, Gingrich, Palin and Perry ate Romney alive during the primaries; this reflects the viciousness of the Republican Party. The Democratic Party puts their foot in their mouth every time lol hahaha The Democrat’s inability to stay unified is their biggest weakness and vulnerability. Hopefully, the debates will dominate these careless behaviors of the Democrats in the General election.

 

What I am really concern about is Ryan’s ability to misrepresent the intention of this budget creation that he and his team developed. He has managed to convince the public that this budget is so unique that there are no models to compare it to in order to determine its effectiveness for the economy.  Each time he is questioned regarding its prototype and how it has worked in the past, he avoids identifying a replica of his plan to solidify its best practice to boost the economy. It’s almost like he developed a “no name” budget that has never been implemented to determine its success rate. How is Ryan so convinced that an uncontested budget will work?? Does he have any models to show its efficiency?? Ryan is a master liar and there is nothing genuine about his plan. He reminds me of a clever, persuasive person with no conscience for the needs of others!! ---The RNC has this guy out touting his unchallenged budget plan; he has no evidence to demonstrate in the past or in real time that his budget will work! Nothing! but he is allowed to come before the public and lie!!

Democrats blew their biggest chance to cripple Ryan for good in  June of 2011.  They won the special congressional election in Buffalo/Rochester ( NY-26) in late May when the married, first term Republican Chris Lee resigned one day after shirtless photos he sent  to a single woman wound up on the net

Democratic local politician Kathy Hochul (not well known outside of her suburban county -- this is my home district) upset a heavily funded GOP-backed Tea Party candidate. She did it by, essentially, running against Paul Ryan, newly annointed anti-Social Security, anti-Medicare GOP Commander  (espousing the same principles that now appear in the infamous "Ryan Budget").

Democrats held the political headlines for two weeks as the story of Hochul's victory got larger and larger. The GOP was desperate as every domestic news story on every outlet pounced upon the young, female "David" scoring a knockout against the Ryan/GOP establishment Goliath. A well-oiled, poised-to-win operation could have held that message dominance for the entire summer (a la Jeremiah Wright, Swift-Boating, Death Panels in the Affordable Care Act),

June 6, enter Rep. Anthony Weiner... or, at least, a little piece of him that he mailed to a woman with whom he had been sexting for some time.  Weiner spectacularly keeps himself as THE DEMOCRATIC lead headline for ten days -- lying, then denying the truth, then conceding the truth, then going into silence for a bit, then fighting to keep his job, and then in high dudgeon and ceremony resigning.  Democratic leaders (in marked contrast to John Boehner's one news cycle execution of Chris Lee), spend ten days hemming and hawing, mumbling off the record, making lame press statements about how Weiner is a "distraction."  Rachel Maddow, in a spectacularly stupid move, takes the crusade for Weiner vs GOP sexual hypocrisy (Sen Vitter's) Madam front and center on her program. 

All of a sudden, the Democrats' message to the American people goes from "We are fighting the GOP to protect Social Security and Medicare" to "We will protect your right to flash your private parts as long as GOP Senators can use sex services and get re-elected."

Fabulous priority, Ms. Maddow. Great courage, Rep. Pelosi and Sen Schumer (Weiner's former employer and political mentor.)

June 16, Weiner finally resigns.  Guess what is no longer the lead story and has never re-appeared as such:  Kathy Hochul defeats pro-Paul Ryan, anti-Social Security Republican.

DEMOCRATIC MESSAGING:  BECAUSE WINNING WOULD BE... JUST... YOU KNOW... UNFAIR.

 

 

WELL TOM sometimes I understand your message and sometimes I am just simply confused LOL—I guess Democrats have a lot of improvements to make but overall they have the better plan for America but they have to message better no doubt lol

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