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By Suzi LeVeaux - Posted on 14 May 2008
Finally! I only wish he'd done it in time for WV.
Maybe, just maybe, the timing is better today. If Obama had lost in spite of the Edwards endorsement, it would have looked bad. With it coming today, one, it takes away from her win yesterday. Two, it gives Obama an inroad to the "working class" voters, especially if Edwards will actively campaign for Obama.
My first thought was of our own MaggieCat. I can only imagine how happy she must be!! The education she recently gave me about Edwards caused me to really be excited about this endorsement, as I see what impact it can have....especially now, with the working class vote in play.
Hugs to you, Maggie! I celebrate with you!!
I don't think so. He's said he's not interested in another VP position. He's always wanted to be attorney general.
Actually, he publically stated a while ago that he wouldn't go for VP. But members of his "inner circle" seem to think differently. They said he showed interest in being the VP, with a preference for Attorney General.
Good news for Clinton Supporters: Post-Bosnia, Hillary now has up to a .007% chance of winning the dem nomination if she keeps her mouth shut until December.
Folks if you're watching this, that is your TICKET!!!!!
^^^^^^^Golf11, NYCAs far as I know, I have no reason to believe Hillary Clinton is a monster; there's no basis for that, I take her on the basis of what she says. And, you know, there isn't any reason to doubt that.
***WARNING....NON-PC STATEMENT TO FOLLOW***
As I watched those two young men with the mega-watt smiles, standing together on the stage, I was convinced that no red-blooded American woman could resist! Incredibly handsome, ability to communicate with passion, highly intelligent, with more charm than the law allows. WOW!!!!!!
I was thinking that too. Two young, very attractive men (especially by politicians' standards) going up against one ancient McCain. McCain would have to choose someone 15-years-old to downplay the contrast ;)
Although the Edwards endorcement helps Obama, Edwards should not be the VP pick. It won't help Obama win NC because NC isn't too much in love with Edwards. He won his senate seat against the even less popular Lauch Faircloth, and he didn't help Kerry win the state in '04.
I believe the Edwards endorsement was timed perfectly; completely strategic and a great play!
Suzi, I am with you "If Obama had lost in spite of the Edwards endorsement, it would have looked bad and with it coming today, one, it takes away from her win yesterday. Two, it gives Obama an inroad to the "working class" voter"
Obama & Edwards do like like a good pair, and our sons even commented that both men had great smiles and that says a lot from an 11 & 15 year old; they don't usually compliment a Guy... LOL!
What an IMPACT * did you see the Michigan Crowd?
Another great strategy "Michigan", I am impressed.
Your sons are very astute, Dana...maybe one day we'll see them up there on the stage. I'll vote for 'em! ;-)
The crowd was HUGE and really fired up. The impact was amazing!!
I haven't been this excited since the Richardson endorsement. And Richardson has followed through with campaigning for Obama. I hope Edwards will!
What did everyone think of Edwards' handling of the HRC issue? I thought he was a genius in the way he handled the crowd. The first time he mentioned her name, the crowd booed. By the time he was finished, they were cheering his statements. My guess is that he can go a long way in winning over the Hillary voters. Also, HRC could take lessons from Edwards in being gracious to the winner. Fat chance! HA!
Yes it was a pro-choice group and that is my compromise as well; however, as Suzi once said it so well, when the Republicans controlled the power they did nothing to modify or change Roe vs. Wade, so time to move on right.
I saw Pat Buchanan too and he was really spinning it and raising the bar again; the rules keep changing - let's just ignore the math & the facts.
Luckily Andrea Mitchell pointed out to be Fair that the "women's"pro-choice group also endorsed Sen. Obama, so not just a boys club.
I can't say it enough, what a great Strategy on the part of the Obama campaign! I like the way they think...
Did you see where McCain is already banging the pro-choice/supreme court drum again? I'm not going to fall for it ever again.
But back to the happenings of today....I like the way they think too. I wonder who is the main strategist? The strategy is amazing, by luck or design the timing is perfect, the location couldn't have been better, and tonight, Barack is back in his zone. Yesterday, his speech was so flat. I guess knowing you were taking a beating takes the fire out of your soul. But the little bit of his speech that was televised was the Obama we all have come to admire!
Suzi, you mentioned McCain and his alleged pro-choice position. Sounds like you're aware that he's flip-flopped on the issue, mostly caught stating he's pro-life. Did you know this?
Hey Suzi, I didn't even realize you mis-typed anything. Just wasn't sure my mind was grasping what your point - it was superhot here yesterday and it felt like my brain was melting : O
Thanks for clarifying. Yeah, totally agree with you: that pro-life thing was pandering. Unfortunately, the guy is going to lose a lot of moderate female votes if he keeps talking about pro-life that way. Not sure where I stand with the issue, but it seems a lot more women these days (in all parties) are more "pro-choice". So he's playing with fire, I think. What is your thought about this?
The funny thing is, when you read that speech, which was widely publicized as guaranteeing the socially conservative right that he would appoint Justices friendly to their cause, you see that in reality it guarantees no such thing. In fact, it almost certainly indicates that he won't appoint the judges they're hoping for. It's pretty clever manipulation on his team's part...summarizing his message so that it sounds evangelical-friendly, but spelling it out in terms that allow him to continue to do whatever he was already planning to do.
My honest opinion, and I am very pro-life, is that McCain is playing headgames with the voters, plain and simple. For the longest time, abortion and gun control have been the hot-button issues for the GOP, followed by gay rights. These three things have been guaranteed to bring conservatives into the voting booth. I know, because I was one of them. It has long been an ugly form of manipulation, playing on people's emotions. Roe vs Wade isn't going to change. I think the wisest thing any politician could do is to leave it alone, it's a done deal. Time to move on, and leave moral issues to the churches, a woman and her God. I think he IS playing with fire, mainly because he is flip flopping again. I don't know what has happened to that man.
Here, here. Headgames indeed.
Not sure where I stand on abortion, yet he offends me whenever he stands up for either side. Why? Because, like you mention, he is so obviously pandering. It obviously has little to do with McCain following his own internal moral compass.
Barb and Suzi and Everyone!
I have been singing hallelujah since yesterday and on cloud nine. Tell me that those two beautiful men were not the perfect ticket for this race. They are both brilliant, passionate, compassionate, tough, fired up, well spoken, and handsome. Hoo, I'm getting flushed. Megawatt smiles, absolutely! ( Yeah, I know, completely and totally not politically correct.)
Barb, I actually sent the Obama campaign, through remote channels, a strategy or proposal encouraging a coalition of Obama and Edwards and I think I even suggested that Richardson should be Secretary of State. The strategy was intended to address the ethnic divide between the Hispanic and Black community through the use of humor, music and shared cultural similarities and overlapping histories to unite in solidarity. Barb, please share my email with Suzi and I will email you both the proposal. My proposal was written around January 23rd or something like that and I actually got comments like, "truly innovative and good ideas".... but let's face it, I am a nobody from rural America. Anything good from an outsider is unlikely to be used and even if they did use anything, I am unlikely to get any credit for the concept. I will say that the one demographic that they could have penetrated more (the 40-60 old group) could have been tapped if they had used some of my ideas. I like to pretend that I had something to do with George Lopez and Chris Rock campaigning for Obama.
Ah well, I think I may be right about my dream ticket and in my own mind, I am brilliant. If the DNC would only listen to me! We all live in our dream worlds, eh?
I am supremely happy tonight.
As for McCain, he like Clinton will say and do anything to get votes. As your resident Dem, I sure hope that all you Republicans realize that McCain can not be trusted. Whatever he had long ago, left him a long time ago. I think that thing is called integrity. Sorry, don't hate me for saying that. He is still a war hero, but that is all that I can say about him right now.
Hope springs eternal. Hopemongers are we!
Ahhh Maggie, my dear friend. You were one of my first thoughts as Edwards walked out to give his endorsement. As I watched and listened, I understood everything you told me about him, and why you support him so fervently. I still really like Richardson, and would be happy with him on the ticket. But I honestly believe that an Obama/Edwards ticket would be magic!
I certainly won't hate you for what you are saying about McCain. I'm finding myself falling into that line of thought. I was telling Barbara earlier today that it seems that McCain wants to be president so badly, to put that crown on a long political career, that he will say, do or be anything to accomplish that goal. In other words, he seems to have sold his soul. I don't know what has happened to the man, but I don't recognize him any more. I respect him for his service above and beyond the call of duty, but being a POW doesn't necessarily make one presidential material, any more than being a president's wife does.
I'll email you, and will be anxious to read your proposal. You never know what parts of it they may pick out and use. I'm so proud of you for your efforts!
Big hugs to you!
Izzy, that's priceless! I hope you'll let us in on more of your imaginary ramblings. lol I'm heading for bed with images of Hillary wandering aimlessly.....
Good nite all........You are such a wonderful group of people!!
I am still on Cloud 9 and dreaming of Obama, Michelle, Edwards, Richardson, Carolyn Kennedy, Maria Shriver and eventually Gore, campaigning and bringing in more and more people into the fold of American restoration and brotherhood. Granted this is a bigger dream for your resident Dem. For many Republicans, this may all sound like a nightmare.
Ironies and principles are rampant throughout this race, but really what I think I want is a country that shows its commitment to integrity by taking care of our own and strenthening the ability of people to care for themselves and all the while being fiscally responsible and brutally accountable. When we show by actions, not words, that we will be loyal to our veterans, our working poor, our children and our infrastructure, then we will show the world that we are a country that can be respected and trusted to do the right thing in foreign relation issues. If we do not demonstrate that we value our own people's lives, we will never be able to convince other countries that we are a good country to work with collaboratively.
Ahhh, I just watched Edwards deny any desire to be VP! I am still excited and hope that he campaigns for Obama in Kentucky. He will make a great Attorney General!
Hope springs eternal.
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