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By ambular - Posted on 09 January 2008
Ambular, it's so frustrating. It frankly frightens me that that many voters would believe and forward the viral emails without even doing thirty seconds of research.
I just got both the fear-monger emails again this week, this time from my aunt. No, Obama's not an Islamic extremist threatening to subvert the country, yes he does say the pledge of allegiance. Shocking, I know.
That's funny. I tried to talk to my dad about it last night. Didn't go well.
Wow. Crazy. Somehow I figured it was only a matter of time.
I couldn't agree more. I've become so defensive about it, I was worried when I saw the name of the forum Muslim. I am relieved it was a topic that I was really going through. It is an easy search, and believe me, I DID IT MYSELF when I was finding out who Obama was. I check out other things, but always give him the benefit of the doubt. A computer and the internet is a dangerous thing in the hands of people who mean to do others harm. I realize when people who love me hear a rumor or forward me an email, they are doing it out of love (or if they have other motives, I still view it as love). I realized a long time ago, I will defend in a loving way, and with humor NEVER with anger. It goes much further and I do justice to Obama that way, not bring him down by taking the low road.
WISHING HIM MUCH SUCCESS TONIGHT! TO ME, THIS IS MY SUPER BOWL!
Ambular~if it helps....If that is all they can say about Obama is this lie, or to imply his middle name means he is Muslim or a suicide bomber, then just picture it like elementary school. Sicks and stones, so to speak. I think it's easier to take the name calling and the implications, when you realize that's all they have.
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firstname.lastname@example.org I couldn't agree more! Or you can continue to write here, and I will read it, but I don't want someone to come along and be a hater on what you are writing!
I hear the word Communist a lot, too.
Yep, YOU DO, Obama person O8! You have a chance to vote for the first African American Christian Democrat in one vote, and you don't have to worry when the haters call him Muslim (which is not a disease, it's a valid religion and I am a Norweign/Bohemian Methodist and even I KNOW THAT MUSLIM is not a dangereous religion~any religion in the hands of those who are evil, can do harm to others!) Any religion at any time can do more harm than good. And the Anti Christ? Yeah there is a good way to unite people!(being IRONIC, I know you are not Obama08) I have a dear friend who thought that Pope JoHn Paul was the anti christ. Then I had a friend who thought PEE WEE HERMAN was the anti christ. WE SHOULD ALL BE WORRIED who is the antichrist, but I always wonder why we think we are so special that the ANTICHRIST would say "Hello" while we are here? I say there is so much left to do and so many millions of years for us to keep screwing up the world, that we are only the beginning of what "My God" or "Any God" would be willing to put up with! RIGHT? To call a politician the Anti Christ is almost kind of funny because if I were to be the Anti Christ, I sure as heck would make sure I ruled a world (Like a Donald Trump) than to have to campaign to get VOTES from the world!
That is just my opinion.
Some of the "Antichrist" business is from people who have read the Left Behind series. (I've never read these books myself, but I'm reading a wonderful commentary/blog on them at the website of a true thinking evangelical: http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/left_behind/index.html. I recommend this site highly.)
Anyway, in these Left Behind books is a character named Nicolae Carpathia, president of Romania who ends up taking over the U.N. and becoming the Antichrist. When this guy talks, women swoon and the world falls in love. His one speech early on at the U.N. in the first book consists simply of a calling out of the name of each member nation of the U.N. (and the crowd goes wild!)
What the Left Behind fans are failing to understand is the difference between Carpathia and Obama: Carpathia could stand up and say two hours of random syllables and the people would follow him anywhere, but Obama's speeches produce the inspirational effect that they do not through some magical or diabolical power, but precisely the opposite--because what Obama says actually means something and includes a challenge to Americans to work together and to become, as a nation and as individuals, something better than we have been in recent years.
The Antichrist label comes from people who note the impact of the words without bothering to listen to them.
Angelo, you totally misunderstood what Carly was saying. Carly was defending Obama against those who say that Obama is/could be the antichrist. She was giving an intelligent interpretation of the differences between the reality of Obama and the antichrist as portrayed in the "Left Behind" book series.
Maybe you need to slow down when reading a post, so you understand what is being said before you attack. C'mon Angelo.....you can do better than this.
I know, Sandi. I may be totally wrong here, but I do think that there is hope for Angelo. I believe his support of Obama is real and strong, and that he (Angelo) is in a learning process. My assumption is that he is quite young, and more accustomed to "chat rooms" where the flaming and argumentitive style are the norm. I hope that with a bit of guidance he can learn to channel that passion for his cause into a more productive method. For some reason, I have taken it on myself to mentor him. Time will tell as to whether this was a wise choice on my part. :)
You are so kind. I hope he learns to give the "benefit of the doubt" before jumping to conclusions, though. It happens so often. You are correct in what you are trying to do. I need to chill. (Difficult board meeting this morning with more of the same bickering and I need to shut this computer off today, need to stop answering my cellphone, need to NOT watch the news until Thursday morning~Ohio may not know for a few days who will win because of paper ballots~ and mostly, have a MENTAL HEALTH DAY. I wonder if I could get in for a massage.)
Later, Suzi! I am off for at least a little nap! My head is killing me!!!!
Barack's father (who was an atheist, not a Muslim) left his family when Barack was 2 years old. He was raised by his white mother and his maternal grandparents in Hawaii for most of his childhood. Barack's maternal grandfather who was much more influential in his life than his father (whom he barely knew) fought in World War II after Pearl Harbor, where he marched across Europe in Patton's army. To denigrate Barack's war hero grandfather is shameful. Barack has been a huge supporter of US Veterans, passing legislation to improve their health care benefits, help keep them out of poverty and improve access to VA hospitals. Aside from all of that, it is racist and ignorant to condemn all Muslims (who make up 25% of the planet) simply because of Islamic extremists. There is a reason that our country's First Amendment relates to the freedom of religion, so that religious minorities in this FREE country would not be persecuted.
Muslims go to Mosque to pray and Christians go to church to worship , so where does Obama go to worship? At the Mosque or at the Church? If you say Church than he believes in Jesus Christ ransom sacrifice and muslims do not therefore he is a Christian and Christian must love everybody including muslims.
Thank you all for your thought provoking and moving posts. I am neither a Republican or a Christian, but I visit your site often because it brings me hope to read what you write. I watched Barack's speech about faith in 2006 and was blown away by his astute and unifying vision. He speaks to the separation of church and state, but addresses the undeniable fact that we cannot chuck our faith / spirituality at the door as we vote. Our belief systems will always underlie our decisions in life. As noted by Obama and in posts above, this nation is made up of people of many faiths and even non-believers, as it was designed to be. Having open discussions and finding common ground without polarizing is the only way that we will have the progress that we need in order to heal this nation.
Here is a link to a great article about his speech which includes a link to hear his address as well. http://www.slate.com/id/2144983/
Thanks for the kind words, Tane. We're a little more sarcastic than usual today, though. I hope we haven't already disappointed you.
I loved his faith and politics speech. Intelligent, reasoned, eloquent. I wish more people of faith (especially in my own party) could think these through and express their positions - regardless of what those positions are - more reasonably.
Lots of women swooned for John & Bobby Kennedy as well
I live in a small east Texas town where I personally know people that think that Obama is some sort of physical incarnation of the Antichrist as portrayed in the Book of Revelation.
Others (more secular) think that we are being conned by an insincere charlatan.
If we are being conned, I guess only time will tell. However I think that it is sad that many are so cynical that when the genuine article comes along, they refuse to consider the possibility for change. (Yes I think that Obama is "the genuine article")
When the Japanese attached Pearl Harbor, we were untied as American like (probably) no other time in our history.
911 provided a similar opportunity for President Bush to unite Americans. Sadly we had Bush as the Commander-in-chief as opposed to a Roosevelt...
If "The only thing that we have to fear is fear itself" let us not fear a chance for a genuine change.
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