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Major Judgement Lapse from General McCrystal


By Kelly Thomas - Posted on 22 June 2010

Link from CNN. Not sure if this will cost him his job (personally I think such insubordination should) but General McCrystal is being summoned to the White House-with reports that President Obama is fuming mad-as details from the upcoming Rolling Stone article emerge. How can someone so high-ranking and established be so unprofessional and unaware of consequences? If nothing else, he should have realized the poor timing and judgement of his comments and kept his staff disciplined. With everything else going on (oil spill, challenges of Afghanistan, etc.) this is the last thing the White House needs right now. This is troubling and damaging and I'm not sure McCrystal can or should survive this.

(CNN) -- Gen. Stanley McChrystal, America's top military commander in Afghanistan, has been recalled to Washington amid his controversial remarks about colleagues in a Rolling Stone article, officials said.

McChrystal was summoned to attend a meeting on Afghanistan and Pakistan in person rather than by video conference, a senior administration official said Tuesday.

"He has been recalled to Washington," another official said.

McChrystal apologized Tuesday for the profile, in which the general and his staff appear to mock top civilian officials, including the vice president. Two defense officials said the general has also fired a press aide over the article, set to appear in Friday's edition of Rolling Stone magazine.

"I extend my sincerest apology for this profile. It was a mistake reflecting poor judgment and should never have happened," McChrystal said in a Pentagon statement. "Throughout my career, I have lived by the principles of personal honor and professional integrity. What is reflected in this article falls far short of that standard."

In the profile written by Michael Hastings, the author writes that McChrystal and his staff had imagined ways of dismissing Vice President Joe Biden with a one-liner as they prepared for a question-and-answer session in Paris in April. The general had grown tired of questions about Biden since earlier dismissing a counterterrorism strategy the vice president had offered.

"'Are you asking about Vice President Biden?' McChrystal says with a laugh. 'Who's that?'"

"'Biden?' suggests a top adviser. 'Did you say: Bite Me?'"

McChrystal does not directly criticize President Barack Obama in the article, but Hastings writes that the general and Obama "failed to connect" from the outset after the president took office. Sources familiar with the meeting said McChrystal thought Obama looked "uncomfortable and intimidated" by the room full of top military officials, according to the article.

Later, McChrystal's first one-on-one meeting with Obama "was a 10-minute photo op," Hastings writes, quoting an adviser to McChrystal. "Obama clearly didn't know anything about him, who he was. Here's the guy who's going to run his f---ing war, but he didn't seem very engaged. The Boss (McChrystal) was disappointed."

...Of Eikenberry, who railed against McChrystal's strategy in Afghanistan in a cable leaked to The New York Times in January, the general said, "'Here's one that covers his flank for the history books. Now if we fail, they can say, "I told you so.'"

..."At one point on his trip to Paris, McChrystal checks his BlackBerry, according to the article. 'Oh, not another e-mail from Holbrooke,' he groans. 'I don't even want to open it.' He clicks on the message and reads the salutation out loud, then stuffs the BlackBerry back in his pocket, not bothering to conceal his annoyance."

"'Make sure you don't get any of that on your leg,' an aide jokes, referring to the e-mail."


 

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Hmmm.  I think he is toast.  

I honestly wonder why anyone would ever agree to  do an interview with Rolling Stone.  They are so slanted in their journalism (I use that term lightly).  

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Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is. 

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To be fair, most of the comments were from his un-named aides, but STILL-McCrystal is not disputing the record/what was reported. Looks very bad for him. Pres. Obama is in a really tough spot-he wants to keep everything flowing with Afghanistan policy/War and really did not want any major changes at this point, but how can he NOT fire him or ask him to resign? Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that meeting!

 

 

Uniform Code of Military Justice  says: (via Political Carnival)

“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Duncan Boothby, the civilian Pentagon consultant who brokered Gen. Stanley McChrystal's interview with Rolling Stone, has resigned, according to two officials.

Boothby, a one-time stage actor, has served as an image consultant to several of the Pentagon's top generals, including Gen. David Petraeus, now of Central Command, when Petraeus was attempting to sell the Iraq "surge" to the American people."

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Boothby just struck it rich. He'll now be on every right-wing show in the country... Joe the Plumber, meet the new kid on the block.

The Article - for those who haven't seen it:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236

Cantor and others seem to be sticking up for McCrystal because he obviously was right to criticize President Obama. It's not insubordination if it's against Obama. You see, he probably wasn't even born here and is not a legitimate president. Ugh!!! Imagine if this was Bush he was critical of-he'd be gone in a heartbeat. Come on, set an example Mr. President!

Cantor and Karazai appear to be his only supporters. Even McCain, Lieberman, Graham rebuked McChrystal. Crazy Glenn Beck said he should be fired.

So Canton is hanging out there with Hamid Karzai. Cantor's such a slimy maggot.

Sweet.

The GOP side of the talking heads on CNN are supporting the Dem side in their assessments that McChrystal should be fired.  Looks like either Cantor is out on a limb, or everyone else hasn't gotten the memo...LOL

I am getting knots in my stomach over the possibility that Obama might not accept (or force) McChrystal's resignation.  Nothing in Afghanistan is more important than the integrity of civilian control of the military and, yes, the unmovable legitimacy of the Presidency of the first African-American elected to that office

If, as some will doubtless argue, McChrystal staying in command saves American troops' lives... ok. Pull everyone out of Afghanistan by September 1 and save even MORE lives.

McChrystal needs to have a sudden, strong desire to spend time with his family and Obama -- devoted family man that he is -- should accommodate his wishes.

I'm with you 100% on this Tom. This isn't McChrystal's first time to be called on the carpet.  Obama needs to prove that although he can be conciliatory when needed, you don't cross a certain line.  McChrystal could be court martialed for what he did.  He should consider himself lucky to be able to resign.  This is the President's chance to show us what he's made of.

I don't get this either. Would McChrystal's departure just make it look like you can't disagree or criticize Obama? 

Seems like it would mean more if he kept him around to not only despel the dictator like projections but to also show that he wants to reach compromise and wants someone who won't just say "yes" to everything.

Obviously this is different because of the military code and the commander in chief etc.  but I think it makes Obama look worse if he does make him leave. 

Maybe i'm just really really really naive though.  

'Would McChrystal's departure just make it look like you can't disagree or criticize Obama?'

It would make it look like the military, especially commanders, cannot openly rebuke the Commander in chief, which is not only the law but a ritualistic taboo in military culture.

Military is perpetually pizzed off at  civilian leadership. Military despised Rumsfeld, but we learned that second hand from politicians like McCain,
the late John Murtha, plus reporters referencing unnamed sources. The Bush era military commanders knew that their job included shutting TFU.

Keeping him makes it look like Obama really is intimidated by military.  Obama already spent his first year getting slapped around by every conservative senator and representative to whom he offered an olive branch.  To me, keeping McChrystal is a step toward "de-legitimizing" Obama's presidency.  There are already enough people bent on doing that; Obama should not help them.

While I personally would like to see a court martial and dishonorable discharge, the larger good is served by a "no drama" acceptance of McChrystal's resignation and a hearty thanks for his distinguished service in the past.

Glenn Beck really said he should be fired? Really? 

 I don't get why others would rebuke McChrystal. Infact I figured they'd agree with him and his right to criticize the president. Then they'd use this to show how terrible Obama is doing and how he doesn't understand the military. And to be quite honest, I wouldn't blame them for jumping on it.  

 

Most conservatives understand that President Obama is the duly elected Commander In Chief and that it is not the general's place while on active duty to give interviews to Rolling Stone critical of the administration.

The general should have either lobbied the president to change certain aspects of the war or resigned.  After he resigned, he could then speak his mind. 

I'm not so sure the base thinks like that, especially when it comes to military matters because he's not Republican, but more so because of the birthers and people who think he's leading us to socialism etc. 

In any case, after seeing everything the right has grabbed on to the last 3 years of Obama, this is pure gold and something fairly legitimate. If a general is this critical of him, it would surprise me more if they didn't seize the opportunity. And like I said, I wouldn't blame them for it. It's Obama's responsibility to command respect of the generals that advise him.  

 

"It's Obama's responsibility to command respect of the generals that advise him."

Nope. It is the generals' responsibility to demonstrate respect for the commander in chief at all times, especially in public settings,  whether they feel it or not. What you are asserting is structuralized insubordination.  (BTW the soldiers who serve under McChystal are obligated to do same for him.) 

Even so, the right has to be all over this. Especially the loudest among them. And I wouldn't blame them. 
Well... a big chunk of the Right...  Beck, Hume, and two ex military commentators on O'Reilly -- aren;t jumping on Obama very much at all. (I think O'Reilly has been a more or less neutral moderator through yesterday; maybe he will chime in today. I am guessing quiet qualified support for Obama's justifiable decision with mitigations on problems in Afghanistan alluded to by the general and his blabby staff. If so, all good).
Gen. Stanley McChrystal has submitted his resignation, Time magazine's Joe Klein told CNN Monday, citing an unnamed source. CNN is working to confirm Klein's information.
Klein has clarified his report, saying McChrystal has offered to resign, but not submitted his resignation. 

I am hearing that McCrystal has told his close circle he is prepared to resign. Not sure if he will only do so if asked or if it's a done deal. President Obama says no decision will be made until he meets with McCrystal. I really don't think Obama has a choice here, as much as it will pain him because it's not his style, but he probably wants to give General McCrystal a dignified exit, if there is such a thing. Not that he deserves it at the moment, but I guess we need to look at his whole career and offer some respect. So I don't think it's a question of if McCrystal will go, it's a matter of how (personally resign, public firing from Obama or Gates, waterboard McCrystal-kidding!!-etc.) With this out there, I wonder if McCrystal's team was the one "leaking" every minute while Pres. Obama was taking his time on the decision about the Afghanistan strategy. Did they ever determine a source?

Update on the article Misty posted:

[Updated at 10:11 p.m.] McChrystal likely will resign Wednesday, a Pentagon source with ongoing contacts with the general said.

 

AP: Gen. Petreaus to Succeed McChrystal
Good MOve all round.  Let's see Cantor gripe about this decision in public.
Did you guys hear Joe Lieberman? Said the President was smart, decisive and made absolutely the right decision.
I saw it..and admit I was rather stunned at the intensity of his suppor for the President!!
Petraeus is actually stepping down one level to take this job. He's head of US Central Command, responsible for both Iraq and Afghanistan. McChrystal reported to him.
 
Petraeus went to the senate committee just last week and stood by the timeline Obama proposed and said in no uncertain terms that it's over. We are drawing down military soldiers in July 2011.
Petraeus is one soldier that absolutely puts service to his country ahead of personal ambition/position.  I have to admire that.

He reminds me a lot of another famous General.  One affectionately known as IKE.  

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Having been poor is no shame, but being ashamed of it, is. 

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Take note: As evidenced today, Generals don't run things, Presidents do.

The President absolutely did the right thing. McCrystal was correct to acknowledge how harmful his own poor judgement (aka stupidity!) was and to admit that his staying in power would actually harm the mission. I think everyone was surprised by the speedy Petraeus replacement-nobody called that ahead of time. Very wise move and it makes me very comfortable knowing the mission-and hopefully goals of withdrawl-are in good hands and with someone very senior and knowledgeable of the situtation. Now who will replace Petraeus? Oh, and I was also loving the Lieberman support! Sorry, Cantor. You can't make Obama the bad guy here.

While my expectations for O'Reilly are pretty low I was surprised at how hard he is pushing the false distinction between subversive comments and comments born of frustration (presumably the proper description of McChrystal's remarks and thereby forgiveable). Presumably B.O. thinks McChrystal's insubordination and lack of patriotism are teachable moments.But..

1) subversive comments and comments born of frustration are not mutually exclusive. Subversives can be frustrated and frustrated people can be subversive.

2) The military code of conduct makes no distinction for motives. Bad mouthing the civilian leadership is a court-martial worthy offense.  The wording of the law takes no account of officer frustration, brilliance,  or studliness. (Amazingly, it doesn't even let white officers off the hook in the case of bad mouthing an African-American president.)

Ah well, B.O. can eat this one as Republicans and conservatives are standing by Obama in significant numbers -- at least as long as Limbaugh doesn't launch a commando raid against them.

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