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Legit Case of Republican Racism


By Brandon - Posted on 07 December 2010

same sh*t, different day..  he's not alone, he just vocalizes where other's aren't man enough to say so out loud in public.

Brandon we've shown you couple of things this week after that big argument. What about Rep. King using the term "slavery Reperations" from an "urban" president in the black farmer settlement. 

Rush wanting reperations FROM Native Americans  for the American deaths from Tobacco.

And we still have new life in the birther movement. Also from Texas. New legislation in Texas also calling for Jailtime to anyone trying to ENFORCE "Obamacare".

But we can go back to the level of disrespect  shown to this president more than any other since probably the Civil War with Barton saying he wanted to be General Patton in the WAR on this administration. 

It's not hard to find the underlying issues here. There is an undercurrent of racism and disrespect for the presidency all over these things. 

 

 

How humiliating for Texas! What "Christian values" is this guy supporting??? Certainly none I can find in the New Testament. Good grief!
This is also a part of GOP/Tea Party movement and Palin is a big part of it. Judging who's Christian enough to serve our nation.  Who is worthy of serving this nation using judging methods outside of political positions.

Republican wants Arizona-like law for California. The man introducing this has written things like this: 

"The facts are incontrovertible that allowing an illegal invasion of the United States will destroy the American Southwest, and very probably wipe out the freedoms we American Christians enjoy, as Muslim Extremists blend in with the so-called 'innocent' illegal aliens, and eventually proselytize them."
Scary stuff. And then there's the bit about Mexicans "raping young girls, marrying extremely young girls, ogling women in an aggressive manner"... and so on.

Is this guy crazy??

It's one thing to oppose illegal immigration, but quite another to make this a racial or religious issue.

Most of the illegals he is talking about are Christians (likely Roman Catholics).  Or are catholics now considered non-Christians?

 

Or are catholics now considered non-Christians?

 

By some fundamentalist groups, yes.  Enough so that the priest at a Catholic mass I attended addressed the issue.

Yeah, a former co-worker, even though he himself wasn't hardcore fundamentalist or anything, was raised to believe that Catholics weren't Christians. Rather that the two words meant two different, incompatible things.

I mean, anyone who knows history would boggle at the concept, but still. Try and explain that to someone who was raised with that belief. 

My Southern Baptist mother was not happy that the man I got engaged to (and am still married to) was raised Catholic because in Southern Baptists' eyes, Catholics are idol worshppers and aren't "real" Christians because they don't make a profession of faith and don't choose to be baptized and are instead just baptized when they are babies.

Most Southern Baptists will never, ever, ever, ever admit out loud that they hold this opinion, but that doesn't mean that they don't think it.  Yes, there are exceptions, but with my over 40 years of experience with a Baptist family and in Baptist churches, I know that it is a quietly held belief.

My mother is also Southern Baptist. Some of the churches we attended in the Dallas-Fort Worth area were somewhat vocal about their doubts about the chances of seeing a Catholic in heaven. They are often subtle in their comments, "I think Jane Doe (who dedicates herself totally to Christian work and causes) may be a Christian, evern though she is a Catholic." The word "Catholic" is spoken with the same tone of voice used when for words such as "pediphile", "rapist", "Nazi", etc.

Anti-Catholicism is not just a religious matter, but an historical thread with people of English background.  From the time of Elizabeth I through the defeat of Bonnie Prince Charlie English sovereignty was threatened by Catholic Europe.  There were the assassination plots against Elizabeth, the Guy Fawkes Gunpowder Plot, alliances Charles I, James II, and other Stuart pretenders tried to make with Catholic France to retain or contest royal power although the majority of people did not support them.

There really wasn't any Catholic threat to England for over 250 years but the ethnic memory has remained, and was also brought to the U.S. 

I've been a Southern Baptist all my life, have attended one church all my life and even went to a Southern Baptist school from 2nd to 12th grade.

I never heard any anti Catholic rhetoric or any talk about Catholics not being "real Christians."

In fact, I often heard praise about Catholics dedication to the pro life cause and other family issues.  The only thing I ever heard bad about Catholics growing up concerned alcohol but that was usually said in a somewhat joking manner. 

Maybe Baptists in my area aren't as hardcore as the ones in Texas. 

Brandon I don't think any believes that all Southern Babtists are anti catholic.  I don't know anything about the Babtist faith, but I have the impression that each Babtist church is more influenced by its pastor than say an individual Catholic parish would be influenced by its priest.

So where as your church does not ascribe to the belief that Catholics are not christian does not mean that the belief doesn't exist.

I recall when I was working for a company that made a point of being run as a "Christian" company (which seemed to me to make no difference whatsoever in regards to how the company was run, it was a good company and good employers).  I was at the time a practicing Catholic and one of the employees asked why I had ashes on my forehead on Ash Wednesday.  Her response was "Oh, well I'm a Christian."  It was a bit of a shock, as well as amusing to find out that there were people who honestly did not realize that the Church purportedly founded by Christ was Christian.  In her favor, she never changed in her attitude towards me, she just didn't have a clue.

Your impression is correct about how Baptist churches are structured.

I've been told that my church is relatively liberal on those kind of issues compared to others.

My mom said the Baptist church she grew up in was very anti Catholic and called Catholicism the "cult of Rome." 

"cult of Rome."

Better than the "whore of Babylon", another oldy but goody. 

Another derogatory word used by some is "papist" presumably from the mistaken concept that we worship or are otherwise mandated to obey the pope.

"Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug." -- Mark Knopfler

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, Brandon, and calling it out when you see racism displayed so blatantly. I know we disagree on some of the more "subtle" examples we have discussed but it really is an issue the Republican Party will need to confront and be open to if they are ever to break that stereotype of the intolerant party or catering to a "white males only" club.

What frustrates me the most is that this kind of bigotry is not denounced by Republicans in Texas.

Rick Perry who is the leader of the party in his state should make a statement that this kind of rhetoric is unacceptable among Texas Republicans. 

Well I would not call this "racism," per se because this is a case of anti-semitism, more about religion than race. Nonetheless, that is still the same level of bigotry that you would see coming from an issue of racism.

Brandon, I agree that the head of the Texas GOP needs to come out and publicly denounce this rhetoric to make clear how the state Republicans stand.

Robert Bork is a birther. Who's surprised?
Just a little side note as I saw this post again. Your title implies that the many other cases we have discussed are NOT legit. I beg to differ. But I am still glad you recognize this for what it is. There is a BIG reason this is not and will not be denounced by other Republicans. Until you see how they are playing that "agenda" to their advantage-and how they will destroy-via a primary or whatever-any "RINO" who dares cross them and call out racism-you will be blind to the destruction created.

"Your title implies that the many other cases we have discussed are NOT legit."

I did not think the other examples that have been cited are 100% slam dunk, but perhaps legit is not the right word.

I don't believe that 99.999% of Republican criticism of the President is racially motivated or that the fringe figures that Rachel Maddow focused on in her special are representative of mainstream Republicans.  A few tea party goers have carried signs that could be interpreted as racist but in a huge crowd there are always going to be crazies.

But this case actually involved members of the Texas Republican Executive Committee which is the "mainstream" Republican organization in that state. 

Maybe you have become too cynical about Republicans, but I'm still shocked that this kind of rhetoric is not condemned.

Jewish Americans are another group that should be Republicans but instead vote Democratic in huge numbers.

How are you going to attract these voters when the state Republican Party condones anti Semitic statements?

Well, I think it all comes down to leadership. if I am the principal of a school and I see racist emails being send or racist chatter/jokes from ANYONE in my school-even if it is "borderline" in my faculty lunch room, you better believe I'd address it, both privately with the individuals and in a public forum like a faculty meeting to send a clear message to anyone who is on the "edge" or wants to push their luck. If I say nothing, I might as well give them a pat on the back. If I say nothing, such behavior and attitudes can spread like poison. If I say nothing, I allow such intolerance to be the face of my school.

Many people Maddow highlights are mainstream Republicans. Some may not be doing the "hardcore" talk or the main players, but they are clearly looking the other way-and they are supposed to be leaders, volunteering to be interviewed by the known racist Rush Limbaugh, taking money from anti-gay groups, etc. The very popular Virginia governor and his side kick AG Cuccinelli are known for some "iffy" moves since being elected. Gov. McDonnell changed a law so that employers could once again fire (or not hire) people for being gay. He was going to allow some kind of Confederate honor day even though it did not acknowledge the slavery side of things. He also tried to implement required essays/lengthy applications for ex-cons to be eligible to vote again-most of whom are minorities (talk about pulling from the past!) They were "enouraged" to include faith-based groups they were associated with. You've got Jan Brewer calling for war against Hispanics and immigrants-actually trying to create a law that discriminates based on your accent, how you dress, and your skin color?? We've got some more radical people like Tancredo calling for literacy tests to vote! And nobody on the GOP side calls them out or dares says "boo" about it. 

Yes, I'm frustrated and yes I'm cynical and until I see some major changes from Republican leaders, they won't have me cheering again anytime soon.

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