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"Republicans" here hoping the House flips to the Dems

By thelibrary - Posted on 06 March 2012

Okay, so you're voting for Obama, what about Congress  ? Are you working for Nancy Pelosi too  ?

No. Republicans want Obama elected, but also want both houses of Congress to be in GOP hands, so as to have gridlock. Yeah!

Incidently, quit putting Republicans in quotes. The implications are not only not very nice, it's just plain a lie.

So, quit it!

As I do every election cycle, I'll be helping many Republicans get elected to congress. I'll be choosing wisely, of course.

No, I don't want the House to change over to Democratic majority.

I second wcolin's comment - stop putting Republicans in quotation marks.  You've made your point already about how you feel about us.

Furthermore, not everyone around here voted for Obama, but their discussion is rational.  If you're truly here out of an honest curiousity then you'll get further without the ad hominem attacks.

I will support candidates who are pretty moderate and will compromise, negotiate, and get things done, reaching out across the aisle and refusing to buy into the "my way or the highway" nonsense which gets us nowhere. Why do you think I like President Obama so much? He completely fits that description (as did Reagan, I would argue.) The Republicans who were swept into office do very little work as far as I can tell. They show up after lengthy vacations and long week-ends, bash Pres. Obama, say no to anything President Obama supports even if they once supported it (including portions of the jobs bill) and go home. Oh, and sometimes they put up extreme legislation including bills on abortion or birth control. I live in NY so once in awhile I meet or view a Republican candidate who is very moderate and actually wants to work with the President and Democrats to get things done, perfectly willing to meet in the middle. They always have my vote. On the national stage, I am just as annoyed with some of the Democrats who get way too many donations from big banks and oil companies and won't budge on things like ending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy or getting rid of oil subsidies. So my criteria works both ways. Lately, I've been leaning towards Democratic candidates, I'll admit. I was so impressed with Kathy Hochul (her very Republican district is very close to mine) and campaigned for her where she won (again in a Republican district that no one thought she could win) by exposing the truth behind the Paul Ryan plan. Nice of you to question our motives yet again but I think we are pretty confident in our judgement and ability to support the best candidates and will not be seeking your approval on our way to the polls.

However you vote, I hope all of you realize the consequences of having a Democrat lame duck president who has nothing to lose, with his party controlling the House.

I don't think the Dems are going to take over the House--they are going to have a hard enough time just trying to maintain their one-vote majority in the Senate.

As far as Obama being a lame duck president, with nothing to lose, that might be good. He would be less inclined to compromise (something which he did quite frequently in his first two years in office, only to be rebuffed with the "my way or the highway" mentality by McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor). Of course, he would still have to try to save the 45th presidency for his own party, so I would think he would be quite judicious about what he tried to do if he won a second term.

I just want common-sense people of either party in my government!

Yes-common sense is vital!! Whether or not Republicans lose control of the House, I hope they lose just enough seats to hear the message loud and clear: get rid of your extreme agenda and  work for the PEOPLE, not Grover Norquist or the extreme tea partiers. You must help President Obama (assuming he will win in 2012) and Democrats in Congress to get things done. If you want to throw in some Republican ideas, that's fine, as long as you accept some Democratic ideas and meet in the middle. There is no reason the 2 parties can't come together on things like jobs legislation, Immigration Reform, Education reform, etc. I truly feel that if the 2 parties can bring their best ideas together, rather than villify each other, the voters will respond with strong approval for Congress and a desire to re-elect those who are working in a bipartisan way. Hey, I can dream, can't I?

If Obama wins in November, and he gets enough allies (read:Democrats) in Congress, I believe immigration reform will be one of the first agenda items in 2013. I don't think too many GOP pols are willing to listen to anything that might lead to citizenship for anyone here illegally.

Go after the employers and most of the illegal immigration problem will go away.

I agree though, the Dems will work for some form of amnesty.

You are correct.  Going after the employers is the only way to take care of this.

But.. neither the Republicans nor the Democrats want to go after the employers.  If they did, this would have happened under Bush or Obama.  But we didn't see it from either one.

It is a pipe dream to think that either party will take this stance.  But I do believe that more people have been deported under Obama than were under Bush.  Can someone here back me up with numbers?

I agree that the U.S. Government should fine (or criminally prosecute as appropriate) employers who are hiring undocumented aliens. However, with anywhere between 12 and 20 million undocumented aliens already here, no matter what happens it's going to be a monumental task.

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